Why pay for sex when you can get it for free?

for the same reason I’d pay for dance lessons instead of just talking up someone in a nightclub: better chances of learning something, and higher quality guaranteed.

Also, “kinks” are socially and culturally learned behaviors. It is not instinctual.

and so? as long as we have society and culture, there will be kinks that will have been learned from that, and in some instances they will be incompatible between otherwise compatible partners.

It is also a myth and another culturally learned behavior that men want and need sex all the time.

how is that even relevant to my post?

Men and women are so much more evolved than that.

that’s not how evolution works.

Also, “kinks” are socially and culturally learned behaviors. It is not instinctual.

Some are outright orientations. For instance, if you like pain, that’s because you’re wired that way – literally wired as in “the nerve cells grew that way and connect that way”.

It is also a myth and another culturally learned behavior that men want and need sex all the time.

On this you’re right: among men just as well as women, you can find the whole spectrum from sex addicts to asexual people.

Men and women are so much more evolved than that.

I’m a biologist, and I don’t understand what you mean by “more evolved”.

You’re maybe saying “[hyperbolic equations], it’s more of a gal thing”?

There are many ways to possibly misinterpret what I said, but that is definitely among the stupidest.

Steersman achieved the internet equivalent of suicide by cop: he knew there were a certain set of insults that would more or less force you to ban him, so he went with those.

Either that, or he was just stupid. I explained HTML to him, and he blithely continued making artistic arrangements of underscores and quotation marks around URLs and apparently expected that to work…

The difference between being impolite and using racist/sexist slurs has evaded much smarter people. Nerd of Redhead once thoroughly embarrassed himself on Pharyngula that way when he tried to explain to some troll why not to use slurs.

It’s so transparent and childish.

oh, it’s even better than that. He’s doing a “I didn’t wanna talk to you anymore anyway” sort of post-deletion flounce by claiming that I gish-gallopped* in this thread and therefore talking to me wouldn’t have been worth his while. And apparently I did it to avoid answering his points, which baffles me because I see nothing that I left unaddressed that resembles a point.

Epic win!

I’m too busy* to catch up with the rest of this thread. But my day is saved before I even visit Pharyngula. See you later. :-)

* Working on an analysis so I can submit an abstract to a conference (deadline: Monday) while rolling on the floor laughing at Steersman.

Absolutely, I would never say or even think that when a friend is telling me his problems! It is more that R tends to be oblivious about such issues, starts discussions about it and then when the topic of privilege vs. discrimination comes up, tries to shut down argument with the “Well I’m white, male and straight and my life sucks, so clearly, racism/sexism/homophobia is not a thing*”.

I certainly don’t think that your daughters, if they are articulate and educated and motivated to learn, would be somehow less attractive to colleges than their white peers. I imagine they would be snapped up, actually, and their race would be irrelevant to most recruiters. But I also think it’s realistic to acknowledge that some bits of society hold damaging stereotypes about black women and that your girls are going to have to face that at various points in their lives. Not every day, certainly, and not from everyone they meet. But sometimes.

Hell, I’m a white woman living outside the US and I’m certainly not here to tell you or your daughters what their lives are like, will be like, should be like etc. I also think it’s encouraging how far we’ve come that we’re having a discussion about how your girls will be going to college and most folk won’t bat an eyelid about it. T’was not always the case. But there’s still work to do, IMO.

*Not his exact words although that would be hilarious

Well, now Steersman will run back the to pit, whine about being censored,

oh, it’s even better than that. He’s doing a “I didn’t wanna talk to you anymore anyway” sort of post-deletion flounce by claiming that I gish-gallopped* in this thread and therefore talking to me wouldn’t have been worth his while. And apparently I did it to avoid answering his points, which baffles me because I see nothing that I left unaddressed that resembles a point.
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*how one can gish-gallop in a conversation that had only three points total, I really don’t know; especially since one was resolved early (using “pitters” in the dialogue), and the second he refused to engage after which I didn’t mention it again (whether Stephanie was trying to make herself exempt from rules she wanted applied to others), leaving only the last for almost all of the discussion: that Stephanie didn’t attribute any beliefs or motives to anybody, because any set of beliefs or motives, good bad or neutral, can produce the same problems of homogeneity (the homogeneity in turn being caused by shared demographics and therefore shared core experiences).